Looking to get on bidders lists for new
construction/plant mods. can provide surplus people, parts,
proposals, financial assistance, reference for power plant
alternative fuels, landfill fuels and ethanol and looking to give
project assistances.
Mike
Krisman <usa@goldrush.com>
Ione, CA USA - Monday, December 28, 1998 at 12:49:09 (PST)
Hi, QLG. Just thought I'd stop in and check
on you all. Very nice work. We've been getting questions on your
work even here in southern Arizona.
Jeff Stone <stonepitts@theriver.com>
Rio Rico, AZ USA - Sunday, December 20, 1998 at 18:47:14 (PST)
Please add us to your mailing list: Doris
& Bruce Livingston Box 136 Crescent Mills, CA 95934
Doris & Bruce Livingston <dixie@thegrid.net>
Crescent Mills, CA USA - Saturday, December 19, 1998 at 17:29:14
(PST)
Sierraville Ranger District Fuels Officer on
detail to the Almanor Ranger District, Lassen NF
scott abrams <sabrams/r5_lassen@fs.fed.us>
Chester, Ca USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 12:55:15 (PST)
It would be nice to have the minutes of the
meetings posted I could not attend the last meeting. What
happened? what's new at GLG? whats the implimentation commitee
doing? need more current info and weekly updates... THANKS, Bruce
Bruce Livingston <dixie@thegrid.net>
Crescent Mills, CA USA - Monday, December 14, 1998 at 06:08:36
(PST)
Really appreciate the thoroughness and
scholarly quality of this web site. I'm finishing up a case-study
report on the Quincy area for a UCD/UCB Wildland Fire Project and
it's great to find everything I need to know about QLG in one
easy-access place.
Cathy Lemp <cslemp@ucdavis.edu>
Davis, CA USA - Wednesday, December 09, 1998 at 14:01:40 (PST)
I am interested in being involved in the EIS
that is required. What is being done so far. I have been writing
comments on forest projects in Lassen National Forest, and expect
to continue writing comments before and after your Act becomes
effective. I am very interested in any information that you can
provide. Thanks. Helen
Helen Ost <johnheln@inreach.com>
Chico, CA USA - Sunday, December 06, 1998 at 11:14:20 (PST)
I'M TAKING A NATURAL RESOURCES LAW CLASS AND
YOU WERE ONE OF THE GROUPS WE STUDIED AS BEING A NEW METHOD OF
POLICY MAKING - THANKS FOR BREAKING GOURND IN THIS AREA.
naomi wyatt <ngoguts@hotmail.com>
BOULDER, CO USA - Friday, December 04, 1998 at 12:07:59 (PST)
I wish the QLG group luck in the coming
adventures. While I do not agree with all of the conditions of
the agreement, I applaud those involved for moving off center and
actually attempting to accomplish some forest management.
John Kessler <linyjohn@thegrid.net>
Mt. Shasta, CA USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 19:56:57
(PST)
I am taking Environmental Science, Policy,
and Management 11. I was told this was a good site to visit for
further information to supplement our texts and handouts.
Anthony
Wirth <a_wirth@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
Berkeley, CA USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 13:49:04 (PST)
Good to see you on the web, I'll be checking
in.
Pete Johnson <pjohnson@mail.telis.com>
Hat Creek, CA USA - Thursday, December 03, 1998 at 07:05:48 (PST)
Good job on your web site. I will check in
often to see what's going on.
Corky Lazzarino <lazz@psln.com>
Quincy, CA USA - Wednesday, December 02, 1998 at 10:39:40 (PST)
Thank you for publishing the Act!!! As an
owner of land in Warner Valley that abuts Lassen NF, I am
interested in helping with efforts to coordinate the QLG act and
the current Sierra Assessment, to prevent further diminishment of
old growth forest and to cause riparian systems to recover from
100 years of grazing degradation.
William "Buck" Farmer <wfarmer@idt.net>
San Francisco, CA USA - Saturday, November 28, 1998 at 11:43:12
(PST)
Wanted to know more about the Quincy Library
Group.
Sue Ladner <sladner@rdasun2.rurdev.usda.gov>
Sacramento, CA USA - Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 14:03:07 (PST)
Just researching a little on the forest
works in progress.
Tammy Potter <www.trpduke@hotmail.com>
Chico, Ca USA - Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 11:18:16 (PST)
Frank, Nice to see you. Good job. Best
wishes. Found your page once.
Bill Beckett <shasta@sunset.net>
Chico, Ca USA - Saturday, November 21, 1998 at 18:44:05 (PST)
This is a page is a very good idea. keep up
the good work!
Dan Howell <hardwood@dcsi.net>
Oroville, CA USA - Friday, November 20, 1998 at 15:15:03 (PST)
Time to start keeping up...just interested
in learning more about the issues
Lori Powers <powers@psln.com>
Portola, CA USA - Monday, November 09, 1998 at 11:13:36 (PST)
Just browsing the site and reading the info.
Hello to Linda Blum.
Judy DeMeola <juded@gateway.net>
Milford, CT USA - Sunday, November 08, 1998 at 22:11:50 (PST)
Interesting, very interesting, see you at
the next meeting.
Bruce Livingston <dixie@thegrid.net>
Crescent Mills, CA USA - Saturday, November 07, 1998 at 20:30:22
(PST)
Congratulations to you all on finally seeing
the bill pass!!
Brian Brown <cchang@dsp.net>
Boulder Creek, CA USA - Tuesday, November 03, 1998 at 07:05:11
(PST)
Just brousing your web page Thanks
Steve Gromacki <GROMACKLAN@prodigy.net>
Redding , CA USA - Saturday, October 31, 1998 at 16:36:00 (PST)
Dear Chris,
I see that QLG member John Sheehan has responded to your
questions. A couple of additional thoughts occurred to me.
While the total project area is about 2.5 million acres, only 1.6
million is available for active vegetation management (tree
harvesting). See the landbase agreements page for a better
understanding of land allocations (http://qlg.org/public_html/agree/landbase.htm).
In response to your question related to volume projection, while
no harvesting has taken place and won't until after the EIS is
completed, a sense of the results may be obtained by looking at
the Plumas National Forest 1997 plan of work projections (http://qlg.org/public_html/miscdoc/pnffy97.htm) which represent about the same level of acreage
treatment for that forest. The plan of work listing represents
Forest Service estimates of acres and volumes for the respective
projects. At this time some of the projects have been completed
while others are just now being treated. Another similar listing
that may be representative of the level of activity on the 3
forests is the Forest Health Pilot project list (http://qlg.org/public_html/act_acp/fhp/fhpproj022796.htm)
These two project listings may be representative of the level of
activity that may occur after the Environmental Impact Statement
process is to be concluded 300 days after it became law (August
17th). The actual on-the-ground activity will not occur until as
much as two years after that. So that will be the field season of
2001.
Your final question, "And the price at which the timber was
sold to the logging company by the Government?" also needs
to be addressed in more detail. First, no timber has been sold to
any logging company and it won't until 1999, at the earliest,
when project environmental processes (EIS mentioned already AND
project/site specific Environmental Analysis) have occurred. Once
the legally required (NEPA-National Environmental Policy Act)
environmental analyses have occurred then the timber will be sold
if there is sufficient commercial volume to make it possible or a
Service Contract will be developed that results in the Forest
Service paying a timber operator (logger) to perform the
treatment on a $ per acre basis.
As you may have learned here, while the questions were simple the
complete answer is generally much more complicated.
Your interest is appreciated. Your continued interest in the
management of our National Forests is also very important. Please
don't hesitate to ask if you have additional questions.
DISCLAIMER: As a University of California Cooperative Extension
Advisor I work with the QLG in the areas of research and
education. At times I my express my personal views but am careful
to distinguish these opinions from what might be considered
University position. It is MY OPINION that the QLG is advancing
the science of landscape level forest management in consideration
of natural forest processes and habitats (fire, water, wildlife,
vegetation, etc.) and public participation.
Michael De Lasaux <mjdelasaux@ucdavis.edu>
Quincy, CA USA - Friday, October 30, 1998 at 09:58:32 (PST)
Your group must be very excited about the
recent passing of your Bill into law. I have a few questions
about it though. What are the final numbers? The total area?
Board Feet? And the price at which the timber was sold to the
logging company by the Government? I am a college stundent and
this infomation would be very helpful to a project I am doing on
your bill. Thank you very much. Chris Ambrose
Christopher Ambrose <99cambro@uor.edu>
Redlands , CA USA - Thursday, October 29, 1998 at 12:49:03 (PST)
I'm a graduate student in the Environmental
Studies program at the U of Oregon with an interest in
community-based natural resource management. At the suggestion of
Linda Blum I checked out the site today and have found it to be a
wealth of information. I'm particularly excited about your
willingness to provide a forum for opposing views. This type of
dialouge is exactly what is needed. I am hoping to examine
community-based approaches in Oregon for my thesis. At this time
I am still trying to figure out what the proper projects to look
at are. IF QLG or anyone who reads the guestbook has suggestions
please pass them along. Thanks.
Jeremy Madsen <jmadsen@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Eugene,, OR USA - Wednesday, October 28, 1998 at 12:38:55 (PST)
ALL READERS NOTE: THIS WEB PAGE IS
EDITORIALIZED BY ITS OWNERS TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYTHING YOU READ
MAY NOT REPRESENT THE ACTUAL OPINIONS OF THOSE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED
COMMENTS. IN ESSENCE, UNLESS YOU AGREE WITH THE GOALS AND ACTIONS
OF THE QLG, YOUR COMMENTS ARE LIKELY TO BE TWEAKED SUCH THAT THEY
SUBSEQUENTLY APPEAR AS WISHY-WASHY NONSENSE. BEWARE, READER!
Anon
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 1998 at 21:58:57 (PST)
Your editorial control is typical of the
QLG's aggressive, anti-truth assault. You pretend to promote and
include all voices in the dialogue, but when a contrary message
contradicts your logging plan you use this one-sided forum to
discredit. It is no wonder that UC Davis pulled this web-page
project from the extension.
Anon
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 1998 at 21:49:55 (PST)
Wouldn't it be nice if the managers of this
page didn't editorialize the messages?
Anon
USA - Tuesday, October 27, 1998 at 21:39:00 (PST)
This week, however, the QLG bill returned
from the brink. To the surprise of both sides, the plan is
included-for now, at least-in an appropriations omnibus bill
that's expected to be voted on this week. If the bill is approved
over environmentalist opposition, it could set an important
precedent by widening local involvement in the management of
federal lands. The bill's critics-including the Clinton
administration-now only view it as an opportunity for timber,
mining and grazing interests to get their way on federal lands.
Conservatives retort that the only real consequence would be a
weakening of the national environmental groups' grip on federal
policymakers. Indeed, the tantalizing possibility that the QLG
could serve as a way to attack environmental activists has helped
turn QLG into a cause celebre among conservative property-rights
interests.
Anon (Wouldn't it be nice if people could share their identity in
a constructive dialogue?)
USA - Sunday, October 25, 1998 at 20:54:47 (PST)
Quincy comes up short A professor at the
University of California at Berkeley has taken a scholarly look
at the Quincy Library Group and at its plan and decided that both
are flawed, but not because he opposes consensus efforts. In the
same article, Timothy P. Duane finds that a consensus group in
California's Yuba River watershed does something the QLG fails
at: It successfully integrates local and national concerns to
manage a chunk of Bureau of Land Management forest. (See critique of Dr. Duane's article herein) But at Quincy, writes
the assistant professor of environmental planning and policy, the
Quincy Library Group chose to go it alone, without the Forest
Service and without national environmental groups. That wasn't
accidental, he writes. In his view, the Quincy group is held
together mainly by resentment of urban influences on rural areas.
The result, he writes, is that the local community has all the
power within the QLG process, and non-residents are excluded. The
article, titled "Community Participation in Ecosystem
Management," says that the group's bill, HR 858, now before
the U.S. Senate, "runs the risk of being a Trojan Horse for
dismantling existing environmental laws and disempowering
environmental interests." The 27-page article is available
from the Ecology Law Quarterly, 20 Boalt Hall, #7200, University
of California, Berkeley, CA 94720-7200. Ask for Vol 24, No. 4,
771-797.
Anon
USA - Sunday, October 25, 1998 at 20:47:37 (PST)
San Francisco Chronicle - Monday, May 4,
1998 THE QUINCY 'COMPROMISE' It is known as the "Quincy
Library Group" bill. Nearly six years ago, a group of loggers,
environmentalists and elected officials got together in the town
library to work through their seemingly intractable differences.
What emerged was a plan that mandates the logging of 60,000 to 70,000 acres
of the Lassen, Plumas and Tahoe national forests over the next
five years. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated this
would require a federal outlay of $70 million when backcountry
road building, environmental reports and other costs are added
up. Some though certainly not all-of that investment would be
recouped through timber sales. In short, the bill is a sweetheart
deal for the timber industry, wrapped in a quaint title and a
veneer of consensus. But the 140 conservation groups who oppose
S. 1079 including organizations such as the Sierra Club,
Wilderness Society, National Resources Defense Council-have not
been fooled. The justification for accelerated logging is that it
would create a system of fire breaks in the Sierra to reduce the
risk of a major conflagration. The problem with this theory is
that it is simply not supported by science. An article published by the California Academy of
Sciences, by UC Davis professor Don Erman, called the Quincy
fire- suppression concept "back-of-the-envelope
calculations." (The
truth is that Dr. Erman was quoted in the article written by by
Freelance writer Jane Braxton Little)
Decisions on management of our national forests deserve more
thorough and inclusive consideration. The people who live and
work in the area should be heard-but they should not be allowed
to dictate policy. The industry's stake in this bill is clear: It
guarantees a big five-year harvest. To her credit, Senator
Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., withdrew as a co-sponsor of S. 1079 when
she determined that it might not protect old-growth areas that
have been identified since the bill was drafted. However, Senator
Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., continues to push for this flawed
legislation. The U.S. Senate, which may take up the bill in the
near future (A floor
debate, precluded by Senator Boxer's hold for almost a year would
please the QLG members greatly.) should
be aware that Plumas County residents are not the only
Californians who care about what happens to this large stretch of
the northern
Anon
USA - Sunday, October 25, 1998 at 19:05:19 (PST)
I wonder if you are having much success in
your venture? Some of us on lookers are hoping you can get
something done!!!
david thompson <thompson@cdepot,net>
plymouth, ca USA - Saturday, October 24, 1998 at 21:28:25 (PDT)
QLG Thank You!
John Lundquist <jblundquist@student.frcc.cc.ca.us>
Lk. Almanor, CA USA - Friday, October 23, 1998 at 10:32:16 (PDT)
Visiting your site to keep up with QLG
Ann Boelter <boelter@uwyo.edu>
USA - Friday, October 23, 1998 at 07:49:20 (PDT)
Dear QLG members, . . . . .....
Congratulations on the passage of the QLG bill. I attended the
August meeting of the QLG and the future of the bill at that time
seemed dark indeed. My own forestry related project, a fire
safety video project which I called "The Cannonball
Express" and which I described to the group on that hot
summer morning, has also fared well over the summer. ie. . I have
just received a wonderful letter of endorsement from California
State Assemblyman Ted Lempert. That is the 74th letter of
endorsement received by the Video Project Committee so far (and
we continue to strive to build our distribution list..)
Otherwise, we are scheduled to film the Botanist's Scene on
Saturday, August 24th, 1998 at Yerba Buena Nursery in the hills
above Woodside, CA...I'll send your secretary a copy of this
portion of the video as soon as we can get it edited and titled.
Details on the shoot and the script are available on my web site
at http://www.best.com/~canonbal . I appreciate your efforts to
keep me informed on QLG developments through the web site and
recent messages left on my answering machine. I look foward to
talking to you all again. Steven Kennedy (650) 473-9313
Steven
Kennedy <canonbal@best.com>
E. Palo Alto, CA USA - Thursday, October 22, 1998 at 22:59:28
(PDT)
Congtatulations on the passing of the QLG
Bill. Now hopefully we can put it to good use.
Janelle Thompson
USA - Thursday, October 22, 1998 at 13:06:13 (PDT)
Useful site for learning the issues
associated with the Quincy Library Group
Martin Kurtovich <martin.kurtovich@hq.doe.gov>
Washington, DC USA - Tuesday, October 20, 1998 at 11:06:37 (PDT)
I worked with Coordinated Resource
Management in Oregon in the 1970s and have been interested in
applying the principles to natural resource management in
Humboldt County. I met Michael Jackson at Moon's; learned of the
existence of the QLG and thought it would be good to keep in
touch.
Mickey Fleschner <trinmick@humboldt1.com>
Trinidad, CA USA - Monday, October 12, 1998 at 09:40:17 (PDT)
just pokin' around. i read the terhune paper
that was presented at the WVU sustainable community workshop and
found some of the ideas rather interesting. i thought i'd check
your web site and see what else is happening.
Rick Landenberger <rlanden@wvu.edu>
Morgantown, WV USA - Friday, October 09, 1998 at 14:18:55 (PDT)
just pokin' around. i read the terhune paper
that was presented at the WVU sustainable community workshop and
found some of the ideas rather interesting. i thought i'd check
your web site and see what else is happening.
Rick Landenberger <rlanden@wvu.edu>
Morgantown, WV USA - Friday, October 09, 1998 at 14:13:29 (PDT)
I was just browsing around at the suggestion
of a professor of mine and was fascinated at the comments of
other environmental groups. I found it really interesting that
the groups primarily supporting this bill were, in fact, the NOR
CAL environmental groups.
Stephanie Snyder <slsnyder@polymail.calpoly.edu>
San Luis Obispo, CA USA - Tuesday, October 06, 1998 at 13:04:33
(PDT)
I would realy like to get involved with
helping environmental groups and stuff like that. i like email
its good yea
Sarah Peterson <princesskitty2@juno.com>
Belle Mead, NJ USA - Thursday, October 01, 1998 at 18:12:52 (PDT)
Forests are the only natural terrestrial CO2
recycling system available. Your efforts to develop a locally
supported plan for management of forest resources is commendable.
Alan
Page <afmo@prodigy.net>
Belchertown, MA USA - Tuesday, September 29, 1998 at 06:19:03
(PDT)
Just catching up on the QLG's efforts, in
course of climbing the learning curve of sustainable
forestry/certified forest products debates in FSC workshops.
Ivan Weber <phyto@utah-inter-net>
Salt Lake City, UT USA - Monday, September 28, 1998 at 13:53:16
(PDT)
Michael Kossow has reservations through Ann
Carlson of USDA Forestry for 2 researchers at Sagehen full time
Summer of 1999. If Michael could write, call, come by for a visit
so we can show him the lodging accommodations. There is plenty of
time before May 15, 1999. Thanks Warren and Joanne Schifini
Warren Bruce Schifini <Sagehen@sierra.net>
Truckee, CA USA - Saturday, September 26, 1998 at 18:51:30 (PDT)
Hi My brother is taking me to Ireland on
Oct. 15!! Sure do miss you all. With love,
Jill DeLaney
Owls Head, mMeH USA - Thursday, September 24, 1998 at 17:04:34
(PDT)
Hi My brother is taking me to Ireland on
Oct. 15!! Sure do miss you all. With love,
Jill DeLaney
Owls Head, mMeH USA - Thursday, September 24, 1998 at 17:04:27
(PDT)
I need info on thhe environmentalists point
of view.
April Ann Erickson <a_erickson
@ mailexcite.com>
Chatfield, MN USA - Wednesday, September 23, 1998 at 11:26:06
(PDT)
Hey Mr. Yost great picture of you checking
out that fire scar. Hope your school year is going well.
Mindy Garcia
Vacaville, Ca USA - Monday, September 21, 1998 at 22:12:22 (PDT)
Great Page, any later info on the bill than
1997? Sam
Sam J. Wilbanks <swilbanks/r5_tahoe@fs.fed.us>
Sierraville, CA USA - Monday, September 21, 1998 at 17:42:21
(PDT)
I am working with a group of citizens
interested in recreational use, community stability and logging.
Have heard great stuff regarding your ability to work together on
the local level.
Frank Findley <frankf@main.graham.nc.us>
Robbinsville, NC USA - Monday, September 21, 1998 at 15:38:00
(PDT)
Interesting that you folks are being
criticized by state wide environmental groups for your plan. I
believe that grass roots organizations with membership
representing a variety of interests are the best way to manage
our watersheds.
Margie Graham <>
Frazier Park, CA USA - Friday, September 18, 1998 at 14:54:44
(PDT)
We live in the Sierras in an old logging
town. The controversy that lies here is the huge amount of
logging trucks that are carrying logs to Sonora for
treatment...There are about 10 trucks that pass me loaded with
was once gorgeous pines & cedars. These trucks that go by are
in essence within a 5 min. per- iod...Residents &
Conservationists became alarmed. God knows how many trees were
logged in the entire day if so many trucks go by in such a
minimal time period. Letters appeared in the paper & the
response was that the trees were logged so the small ones can
grow..I'm sure in even our favorite vacation spot, Lake
Almanor/Chester, it's the same bull...Logging is still a
multi-million dollar industry in this State and if Loggers &
Paper mill owners feel we are blinded by propaganda, please think
again...Although there is some truth to the excuse, there is NO
excuse to continuously cut down trees that are at least 100 yrs.
old in the name of profit...Yes, we need wood and use products
made of same, but what is witnessed in this area has become
horrendous & inexcusable! Thank you for letting me voice an
opinion!!
S. Carr <luvs9s@webtv.net>
Arnold, Ca USA - Monday, September 14, 1998 at 13:15:21 (PDT)
I am impressed by the collaboration of the
different groups on this project. The Quincy Library Group
exemplifies the viability of civic political action. It seems to
me that when a small town group gets as much attention as it does
and causes grief to so many more powerful political institutions,
that people ought to take the intiative to find out why. How come
it has forms such a threat? The QLG website is the perfect place
to find the anwers. The set-up allows for viewing the different
perspectives in a straight-forward manner. A group that includes
such an exhibition of diverse feelings and opinions and is able
to reach points of agreement is unable to have a hidden agenda.
That alone is a welcome relief in the political arena. All
involved with the support of the former are to be lauded.
June Gilfillan <GILFILFAM5@aol.com>
Cerritos, CA USA - Friday, September 04, 1998 at 13:33:23 (PDT)
Surfers, Members, Countrymen, ( An open
letter) On Thursday August 13th, I attended a meeting of the QLG
and made an informal request for a letter of endorsement from the
QLG concerning my video project-in progress, the "Cannonball
Express". I handed out numerous *business cards* containing
my URL, www.canonbal.org and answered questions about the project
to the best of my ability. I have just asked coordinator Mike De
La Saux to get this letter of endorsement issue onto the next
agenda for consideration for me because I know I will be unable
to attend further meetings in Quincy due to the distance involved
and the expense of travel and lodging. Please rest assured that
the California Dept. of Forestry's director Richard Wilson is
very familiar with me and my project. They appreciate the
environmental twist that I have put on their standard defensible
space recommendations but are in no rush to fund a video that
addresses surburban wildfire issues where city fire department
tactics would be at loggerheads with CDF doctrine and fire
suppression strategies. The fact that this video addresses so
many environmental concerns must also be a source of concern to
them. So, if you heard my presentation on August 13th and have
not yet done so then please see my web site and join the
sure-to-be-lively debate at the next QLG meeting. If you were not
there on August 13th but do care about urban firestorms, home
fire safety and the environment and especially if you can see the
connection between the efforts of the QLG and my own, then please
detour from the task at hand long enough to read the text on my
home page and explore one or more links...ie the wickedly funny
Project Briefing the hilarious Message From the Author or the
beautifully written video script. Your support of this video
project from cyberspace and the pages of this guestbook will be
much appreciated. Sincerely, Steve 'Iceman' Kennedy Executive
Producer The Cannonball Express http://www.best.com/~canonbal
Steven
Kennedy <canonbal@best.com>
E. Palo Alto, CA USA - Monday, August 24, 1998 at 23:16:35 (PDT)
We are starting a similar group here in the
rainforest of Sitka, Alaska. Your web site has given me a lot of
great ideas, as well as inspiration. Thank you. Sincerely, Bobi
Rinehart Environmental Resources Manager Sitka Tribe of Alaska
Bobi Rinehart <bobi@ptialaska.net>
Sitka, AK USA - Wednesday, August 19, 1998 at 08:27:19 (PDT)
Great Work! Any critiques of SNEP from
working foresters?
Registered Professional Forester <Outslope@aol.com>
Humboldt County, CA USA - Tuesday, August 04, 1998 at 13:32:56
(PDT)
New at this site and interested in the
history of the eastern portion of the plumas county forests and
the environment. I'm searching specific data ie; maps, sketches,
photo's and the like of and about the clover valley lumber
company, circa. 1930's to 1950's about the life in the camps. Red
Clover Valley area, camps 13 and 14 any info please can you
forward. Thank you. Now searching
Eric N. Olsen <csolsen@speedlink.com>
sacramento, ca USA - Tuesday, July 28, 1998 at 15:44:26 (PDT)
Thank you Michael DeLasaux - not only do I
now know the correct spelling of your name, I have a much better
idea what the QLG is all about and what the area concerns are. My
questions are: what about the people of the communities? what
percentage of the communities were economically dependent on
resource extraction industries? are/were there cattle grazing
permittees in the subject areas? Has the project, since that
first meeting in 1992, changed the cultural base of the
communities? Do you have a handle on how the native residents
feel about all this?
dee lambert/reporter/Lake County Examiner <dlambert@presys.com>
Lakeview, or USA - Thursday, July 02, 1998 at 21:06:07 (PDT)
visiting per suggestion of Mike DeLaraux
(sp?) - am reporter with Lake County Examiner, Lakeview, Oregon
dee lambert <dlambert@presys.com>
lakeview, or USA - Thursday, July 02, 1998 at 20:16:16 (PDT)
Keep up the hard work that you have been
doing. We support you and if this works in your area we hope that
it will help us all.
Valerie Patton,President, California Women in Timber <vpatton@hayfork.>
Hafork, Ca USA - Wednesday, June 24, 1998 at 22:29:09 (PDT)
Just checking-in, been awhile. Also my email
address has changed. The old one still exists, but will be phased
out in next month or two. For faster contact I would suggest the
new address above. Keep up the good work!
Jim Chapman <lassenadd@thegrid.net>
Susanville, CA USA - Tuesday, June 23, 1998 at 16:59:39 (PDT)
I just wanted to see how well the Quincy
Library Group was doing. It seems they are doing very well. P.S.
Hi Daddy (Mike Jackson)
Julia Jackson
Davis, Ca USA - Monday, June 22, 1998 at 16:35:38 (PDT)
Thank you !!! (the least I can say)
Burkhard Bohm
Portola, CA USA - Thursday, June 11, 1998 at 10:16:47 (PDT)
Haven't checked it out yet. Very interested
in utilization of small diameter materials in California,
Arizona, Colorado, and other western states.
Tim Rooney <trooney@neosdenver.com>
Lakewood, CO USA - Tuesday, June 09, 1998 at 16:24:28 (PDT)
As the CDF Unit Chief responsible for
coordinating fire and resource management issues in Plumas County
I will be accessing this Web site often for information on QLG.
Gary Ross <gary_ross@fire.ca.gov>
Oroville, CA USA - Monday, June 01, 1998 at 17:18:04 (PDT)
Very nice to visit this site. It's as
beautiful as Quincy. Hellow Anthony, Austin, Anna &
Mr.Mrs.Lin.
Yao-Win Lin <lin1yw@ms5.hinet.net>
Taipei, Taiwan, ROC - Sunday, May 31, 1998 at 09:22:08 (PDT)
Your efforts are a source of encouragement,
keep up the good work!
Robert Krohn <rfkrohn@mobynet.com>
Reedley, CA USA - Thursday, May 28, 1998 at 16:03:28 (PDT)
what is this guestbook?
Mike Leahy
USA - Thursday, May 28, 1998 at 09:49:03 (PDT)
no comment
Doug Wallner <doug_wallner@nps.gov>
philadelphia, pa USA - Wednesday, May 27, 1998 at 09:58:39 (PDT)
PS My URL is www.canonbal.org and the name
of my video project is "The Cannonball Express"
Steve
Kennedy <canonbal@best.com>
Palo Alto, CA USA - Tuesday, May 26, 1998 at 17:07:37 (PDT)
America! What a country! This web site has
the ring of truth to it. For a similar look at the issues of
wildfires, fuel loads and vegetation management from an URBAN
perspective please see my video project-in-progress on the web.
The script is there, as are some satirical briefing materials in
the Message From the Author section. With luck, we'll be filming
this summer. Resumes and letters of interest are always welcome.
Steve
Kennedy <canonbal@best.com>
Palo Alto, CA USA - Tuesday, May 26, 1998 at 17:05:07 (PDT)
I came to this web site looking for
information for a class project, and was impressed. It is good to
see someone working towards enviromental protection without
turning a blind eye toward some of the economic aspects.
Ryan Shellito <rshellit@polymail.calpoly.edu>
San Luis Obispo, CA USA - Tuesday, May 26, 1998 at 13:35:19 (PDT)
I enjoyed reading DEQ information of water
and inviroment projects. I like many other Americans belong to
the Izaac Walton League of America. As a member of the IWLA I am
very concerned with the inviroment and I do what I can to
preserve our natural resources like all good ikes do. I would
especially like to thank Jay Gilliam Vice President of IWLA the
state of Virginia For his special interest and time he spends
with chapter teaching Save our Streams programs. There are IWLA
Chapters all over the United States needing support of anyone who
is concerned about our future and present inviroment.
Pat Miles <miles9@bellatlantic.net>
Christiansburg, Va Montgomery - Monday, May 25, 1998 at 09:47:24
(PDT)
Really liked some of the fire and
other(fungi)monitoring that is planned. And the stand treatment
in advance of precribe fire. There's a few people thinking out
there. Your're ahead of everyone else. I'm going to nominate QLG
to E-town for their e-cheivement award. Hope the FS can get it
together to make it happen.
Barry Layton <bare@compuserve.com>
South Lake Tahoe, Ca USA - Sunday, May 24, 1998 at 16:30:17 (PDT)
Looking for more information on QLC
David In Yun <dyun@polymail.edu>
USA - Friday, May 22, 1998 at 13:49:21 (PDT)
Came to find info on QLG
R. Haight <rhaight@fix.net>
SLO, Ca USA - Tuesday, May 19, 1998 at 23:50:18 (PDT)
I am a 20 year veteran of a Hotshot crew,
detailed into Rx Fire Planning. We are utilizing some of the
concepts in our fuels reduction planning. Glad to see the
website.
Paul Linse <plinse/r1_flathead@fs.fed.us>
Hungry Horse, MT USA - Tuesday, May 19, 1998 at 11:44:06 (PDT)
I am George Terhune's sister. Having
recently acquired internet at home, I spent all morning reading
my way through your web site. I applaud your hard work along with
having such a wealth of information on your site. This
information helped me to write a more "educated" letter
to Barbara Boxer regarding your group and commitment. I hope
everyone's efforts will be rewarded by a Senate vote!
Judy and Jim Hamilton <jbhamilton@earthlink.net>
USA - Saturday, May 16, 1998 at 16:13:25 (PDT)
Say hello to Pat & George.
Warren Conklin <conklinw@gte.net>
San Rafael, CA USA - Friday, May 15, 1998 at 19:50:15 (PDT)
Working on the class project. Looking
forward to Michael De Lasaux s trip to speak with us, since we
can't make the trip to Quincy this year.
Ken Herrmann <kherrman@polymail.calpoly.edu>
San Luis Obispo, CA USA - Thursday, May 14, 1998 at 13:59:34
(PDT)
Keep up the good work and hang in there.
They are still working on getting the bill up in the Senate.
Duane Gibson <duane.gibson@mail.house.gov>
Washington, DC USA - Thursday, May 14, 1998 at 10:28:20 (PDT)
Gathering data for a report. Great web site!
Laura margason <lmargaso@polymail.edu>
San Luis Obispo, CA USA - Thursday, May 14, 1998 at 09:20:34
(PDT)
Looking forward to visiting Quincy in July
Donald P. Lubell <DPLubell@aol.com>
Thousand Oaks, CA USA - Tuesday, May 12, 1998 at 00:36:22 (PDT)
Still very confused by all the rhetoric -
and very concerned about the impact that building roads through
already stressed forests will have on that same environment. So
much damage has occurred during the past winters by flooding in
that area, I have to question why and how this would help the
area? A truthful, comprehesive picture could be presented, would
be much appreciated. Thank you for the site and the information -
Beverly Franco <bgfranco@usc.edu>
USA - Monday, May 11, 1998 at 15:33:01 (PDT)
Thanks for the hard work you have invested
seeking solutions to forest problems. You must represent a
terrible threat to the Environmental "Industry" who
want to stamp you out of existance so your ideas and solutions
can't flourish. Boxer has no solutions only the same old worn out
rhetoric pushed by the environmental industry. Keep up the good
work.
Mike Taff <Mike7139@aol.com>
Cottonwood, Ca USA - Sunday, May 10, 1998 at 07:35:24 (PDT)
Didn't know that you had a web page and
found this by visiting the Norcal SAF page today.
Pete Passof <pcpassof@ucdavs.edu>
Ukiah, CA USA - Friday, May 08, 1998 at 09:48:10 (PDT)
Environmental issues are global. They extend
far beyond Quincy; even to hamlets like Ione, CA where a unique
geologic formation allows unique plant species to exist. Even
here, in "California's Galapagos Islands," the most
insignificant-looking rare plant can be devasted as quickly as an
ancient forest by commercial exploitation. Maybe, with good
planning, good will, and a measure of good law, even the rare
plants of the Ione Chaparral might persist for future generations
to appreciate.
George Hartwell <Infocom@cdepot.net>
Ione, CA USA - Tuesday, May 05, 1998 at 17:51:48 (PDT)
As a "Westwoodian" of 18 years,
now living in Sierra Club country, I am happy to have found your
site. Your misconceptions and facts info have really helped in my
debates. I have invited several Santa Cruzians to come check out
the forests,but they can't seem to find the time.Thanks QLG, for
your commitment and passion.
Maija D. Blaufuss <danilova@cats.ucsc.edu>
Santa Cruz, CA USA - Monday, May 04, 1998 at 12:56:22 (PDT)
Thank you. I still bless the days when I
heard that the "loggers and the environmentalists" were
meeting down the street in the library. I was so relieved to have
hope for us as community with each other and with the forest. Now
that I'm living away from Plumas the only info. I've seen are
simplistic, bashing ads that are all rhetoric and with no respect
for hard work and careful, painstaking time and attention that
went into the QLG plan. Again, thank all of you for your hard
work.
Karen Krongold
Sacramento, CA USA - Tuesday, April 28, 1998 at 23:36:30 (PDT)
You have a very good site. I would encourage
you to keep up the work. I think you are going to help the
resources and people in the long term.
Allen Rasmussen <Allenr@ext.usu.edu>
Salt Lake City, UT USA - Monday, April 27, 1998 at 20:25:19 (PDT)
The web site is great. I would love to see
more access for people who have no access to the internet.
Cris Bailey <c.bailey@thegrid.net>
Greenville, Ca USA - Sunday, April 26, 1998 at 23:49:14 (PDT)
I don't understand how urbanization can be
seen daily to swamp the wildlands of California (as well as many
other parts of the country) and yet people seem to have
incredible emotional intensity around the QLG and the details of
your shaded fuel break designs. I find it puzzling that you are
such a lightning rod for political activity and invective.
Anyway, it's encouraging to know that you care enough to work
this hard for your community and the environment. Keep up the
good work!
Sharon Friedman <sfriedman@reeusda.gov>
Washington, DC USA - Wednesday, April 22, 1998 at 08:52:06 (PDT)
Just remember, there is no such thing as a
virgin forest, untouched by human hand. Five to 20 million acres
per year of burning in California prehistorically did not start
on its own.
Registered Professional Forester <outslope@aol.com>
Arcata, CA USA - Tuesday, April 21, 1998 at 15:46:32 (PDT)
Thank you for all this information. I am an
academic studying local conservation efforts -- and this site has
been a gold mine. (I take it there is no gold mining going on in
the Plumas and Lassen Forests.)
Mark Sagoff <msagoff@puafmail.umd.edu>
Bethesda, MD USA - Tuesday, April 21, 1998 at 09:50:48 (PDT)
A great job putting together a VERY
impressive site! Comprehensive, easy to navigate and very
informative. Keep up the good work!
Sheldon Kinsel <kinsel@cyber-naut.com>
Heber, UT USA - Monday, April 20, 1998 at 15:42:50 (PDT)
I think that this is a very good idea! Many
people are coming here. I love this place. It's great for
reports!
Maudi Hernandez <maudi.hernandez@usa.net>
Malad, ID USA - Thursday, April 16, 1998 at 09:49:56 (PDT)
Please tell Frank Stewart that his
presentation to the Shasta County Board of Supervisors on the QLG
Forester was very well received in the newspaper. Good job Frank!
Mary Schroeder <mschroed@snowcrest.net>
Cottonwood, CA USA - Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 16:31:51 (PDT)
no comments
Duane Chapman
USA - Wednesday, April 15, 1998 at 13:00:09 (PDT)
At Butte College, CARLO Lab to continue
research of your work and am glad to have found you!
Bob Cardy
MAGALIA, CA USA - Tuesday, April 14, 1998 at 13:28:05 (PDT)
If you would like a formal or informal
seminar on the Forest Science Project, let us know. thanks... Tim
Lewis
Timothy
E. Lewis <tel7002@axe.humboldt.edu>
Arcata, CA USA - Monday, April 13, 1998 at 12:26:22 (PDT)
Finally got on the net and had to check this
site first! As a Working Assests Long Distance customer, we just
let them know what we think of their attempts to sink your bill
and both Senators once again urging their support for your
efforts. Good Luck!! (F.I.T. Groupees!)
Brian Brown & Marianne Chang <cchang@dsp.net>
Boulder Creek, CA USA - Wednesday, April 08, 1998 at 18:48:29
(PDT)
Thanks for compiling all the info. I would
recommend adding the pro/con articles on QLG found in the Winter
98 issue of the Chronicle of Community.
Lance Clark <Lance.R.Clark@state.or.us>
Portland, OR USA - Wednesday, April 08, 1998 at 14:17:42 (PDT)
Looking for text to include in NorCal SAF
Spring Field Meeting with special presentation by Wally Herger.
Great site!
Wendy Wickizer <ncsaf@interserv.com>
Sacramento, CA USA - Tuesday, April 07, 1998 at 22:18:36 (PDT)
I am a student at UC Berkeley majoring in
Resource Management. I am writing a research paper on the QLG. I
find the topic fascinating. Thank you for such an informative and
complete web site.
Crystal Raymond <crystalr@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
Berkeley, CA USA - Monday, April 06, 1998 at 16:34:19 (PDT)
Hi all, sorry I missed the last meeting. Got
a new computer and am "surfing" with my daughter. See
ya next month. Sam
Sam Wilbanks <Sam.Wilbanks@gte.net>
Sierraville, CA USA - Saturday, April 04, 1998 at 16:05:02 (PST)
I was just browsing the internet and thought
I would look up Quincy. I found this site and am about to look
over it, I think it's great that you got a site for the Group on
the internet.
Sorrell Bobrink <soreal79@hotmail.com>
Chico, Ca USA - Friday, April 03, 1998 at 09:54:48 (PST)
Great page. Great Cause!
audrey Essner <uh95stu@semovm.semo.edu>
jackson, mo USA - Friday, April 03, 1998 at 07:20:10 (PST)
I have been reading about the QLG in various
publications but have only just come into first-hand contact with
with its work through my interest in biomass utilization. I'm
impressed. Keep on keepin' on.
Michael J. Greene <Mjgrs@aol.com>
Sacramento, CA USA - Thursday, April 02, 1998 at 17:31:42 (PST)
HELLO, Back again. I am a student in Re-Hab
at BUTTE Colege, between CHICO and OROVILE. Research for new
magazine up in PARAIDSE.
BOB CARDY
MAGALIA PINES, CA USA - Thursday, April 02, 1998 at 08:38:05
(PST)
No comments now. Just visiting for Cal Poly
course purposes.
Rich Thompson <rpthomps@calpoly.edu>
San Luis Obispo, CA USA - Monday, March 30, 1998 at 11:47:17
(PST)
keep it clean, keep it holy. Keep wilderness
wild!
Drea <drea@selway.umt.edu>
Missoula, MT USA - Thursday, March 26, 1998 at 13:23:09 (PST)
Great job on the web site! I am drafting a
letter to Senator Feinstein from the City of Anderson. Our new
City Manager would like to show support for QLG. Let me know if
there is anything else we can do to support this effort! Thanks.
Mary Schroeder <mschroed@snowcrest.net>
Cottonwood, CA USA - Monday, March 23, 1998 at 13:43:20 (PST)
Dear QLG: I am interested in finding a copy
of the case study referred to in the 'chronology' section of this
web site (Paul Steinberg's "Regionalism and the Social
Imperative in Ecosystem Mgmt", Nov 1995, for the New England
Bioregional Roundtable). I would appreciate any leads you can
give me. Thank you - Molly Baer Kramer - mkramer@selway.umt.edu
Molly Baer Kramer
USA - Monday, March 23, 1998 at 10:30:35 (PST)
I will be reading all of your information on
CA. Logging. I will research all of your material for a man named
Cory Braker in Paradise Pines for an artical in his magazine.
Thank you.
Bob CARDY
Magalia, CA USA - Thursday, March 19, 1998 at 14:52:40 (PST)
Looking up monitoring protocols
Lucy Nolan <coclnair@aol.com>
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, March 18, 1998 at 12:48:53 (PST)
Interested in the status of the QLG Bill!
Thanks. Just signing on to find out what I can.
Ellen
Stein <e.stein@fordfound.org>
New York, NY USA - Wednesday, March 18, 1998 at 09:12:32 (PST)
I am trying to find information on the
non-profit Plumas Corporation, in economics. I was referred to
your web page. I would appreciate any information you have.
Thanks, Shari
Shari Fengler <sfengler@hotmail.com>
Sebasatopol, CA USA - Tuesday, March 17, 1998 at 11:38:05 (PST)
I came across an article written in the PERC
Reports for March of 1998. The professor of my Natural Resource
Policy and Administration class was lecturing on how individuals
in a community could get involved in Natural Resource Policy and
he used The Quincy Library Group as an example. I do believe that
my Uncle, Michael Jackson, was one of the founders of this group.
I thought I would look up your web site and try to learn more
about your work. I wish you all the best of luck in the future
and hope that all your goals are met. GOOD LUCK, Brandon Mix
P.S.Hello Uncle Mike, I miss you
Brandon Mix
Fort Collins, Co. USA - Monday, March 16, 1998 at 19:38:34 (PST)
I am very interested in your work to save
the forests. We aer developing a totally non-polluting technology
to convert forest residuals and crop residues to electricity.
Edan Prabhu <edanprabhu@msn.com>
Mission Viejo, CA USA - Wednesday, March 11, 1998 at 14:07:06
(PST)
I am the coordinator of the Va Save Our
Streams Program which is attempting to marshall citizen water
quality monitors to help the state agencies do an adequate job of
generating adequate watershed assesments. I want to stimulate a
forum between stakeholders such as agriculture, academia,
industry, municipalities, ,conservation groups (grass roots),and
state agencies. I am not sure how to start in order to have an
effective forum from the start. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Please e-mail me. Thanks!-----Jay Gilliam
jay gilliam <strmiwla@cfw.com>
Raphine , Va USA - Tuesday, March 10, 1998 at 19:04:48 (PST)
As a student in an Environment &
Community M.A. program at Antioch Seattle and longtime Sierra
NEvada resident, I have found this site invaluable for beginning
to research the QLG. Thanks, Michael. My classmates are from
Canada, Spain and Puerto Rico as well as the U.S. and QLG is
interesting to everyone. With the apparent negative stands of
national environmental groups here on your process fueling
interest, but little real knowledge, we were not able to have a
substantive discussion of the issues. My research and a
subsequent paper will help us be informed about the real story.
Susan Czopek <WASHOZO@AOL.COM>
Carson City, NV USA - Tuesday, March 10, 1998 at 10:09:53 (PST)
I am a Forestry Student at Humboldt State
and was interested in the Quincy Library Group.
Adam
Wanden <acw1@axe.humboldt.edu>
Arcata, CA USA - Monday, March 09, 1998 at 13:42:07 (PST)
I am a woodsman just trying to get a better
understanding of our forests and activities that are impacting
them.
Richard A. Gould <rag@powerlink.net>
Greenville, Me. USA - Sunday, March 08, 1998 at 15:25:15 (PST)
Beautiful site!
Susan Czopek <WASHOZO@AOL.COM>
Carson City, NV USA - Friday, March 06, 1998 at 12:25:55 (PST)
Good Job...nice to have a place that folks
can access info.
Holly George <hageorge@ucdavis.edu>
Quincy, CA USA - Monday, March 02, 1998 at 14:50:05 (PST)
Graduate student looking at forms of
community forest management in various places. Interested in
learning more about what has been doen in Quincy. Thanks!
Claudia D'Andrea <cdandrea@nature.berkeley.edu>
Berkeley, CA USA - Monday, March 02, 1998 at 13:59:46 (PST)
Although the Sangre de Cristo Audubon
Society is currently opposed to the QLG bills, I thank you for
providing such detailed information on your efforts.
Bernard Foy <bdfoy@roadrunner.com>
Santa Fe, NM USA - Sunday, March 01, 1998 at 12:18:12 (PST)
Its good to see you are getting in the New
York Times. I was born and raised in Greenville. My father, Bert
Wilson, was part owner of the Trio Logging Company. The other two
owners were Rip Stead and none other than Al Olds of Quincy. I am
interested in forestry and economic development questions in
Plumas Co, but am not professionally involved.
Luther S. Wilson <ludia@3-cities.com>
Kennewick, WA USA - Saturday, February 21, 1998 at 15:27:05 (PST)
To those who demand a zero cut...may you
reap the benefits of the fires & floods of a human made hell.
To those who demand a liquidation of our resources...may you also
reap the benefits of the fires & floods of a human made hell.
Unfortunately, we cannot ignore our past abuses...Management
through science not politics & economics! Thank you Mike
& Matt for the excellent web site.
garry pritchard <garry_pritchard@ogden-energy.com>
westwood, ca USA - Thursday, February 19, 1998 at 07:57:21 (PST)
We passed through this summer and drove off
of the road (89?) into Keddie Resort. We were particularly
intrigued by the beauty of the river (The Feather River, Right?)
and took the detour into the resort after seeing the abandoned
store building on the highway. A few miles later we were
remarking at a general store across from a towing company about
the resort and learned there had been some murders there. We
would really appreciate being directed to some information on the
history of the resort and, patricularly, some details of the
murder/s.
Dolly and Tom Kusturin <picture@teleport.com>
Canby, OR USA - Wednesday, February 18, 1998 at 19:50:37 (PST)
The discussions we've had with QLG and
others about continuing to build a scientific framework that
includes both modeling and monitoring of the forest management
proposals that have been put forward are very refreshing. I look
forward to an ongoing interaction with all who are involved.
Dale D.
Huff <ddh@ornl.gov>
Oak Ridge, TN USA - Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 18:16:31 (PST)
I appreciate the availability of your work.
Thanks.
Jim Coufal <jecoufal@syr.edu>
Syracuse, NY USA - Tuesday, February 17, 1998 at 11:25:39 (PST)
Mike: It was a very good visit we just
concluded. I was on my personal net service and decided to sign
in. I'll come back again with my business e-mail. Thank you for
the hospitality and opportunity to get to know many of the people
involved in the QLG work. We look forward to the future
interaction. I'll keep this bookmark so I can keep up with the
action (as if that was possible!).
Dale Huff <ddhuff@usit.net>
Oak Ridge , tn USA - Sunday, February 15, 1998 at 17:42:32 (PST)
This is a great resource.
Ken Casaday <kenc@jsanet.com>
Sacramento, CA USA - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 08:49:46
(PST)
Hi QLG, Tom Gregory
tom gregory <tomgregory@hotmail.com>
Loyalton, USA - Thursday, February 12, 1998 at 09:00:56 (PST)
I've followed your work for several years.
Good luck and stick with it. Common sense and sound science may
previal.
Terry Grillo <terrygrillo@volcano.net>
Volcano, CA USA - Wednesday, February 11, 1998 at 15:18:50 (PST)
I have been following you ever since I
visited the House Natural Resources Committee in DC and learned
of your commendable efforts to achieve consensus among all
parties at the local and regional level. I have long been a
participant and facilitator of round table processes and there is
no doubt that they are the best way to approach multi-stakholder,
multi-issue, land use planning. The very best to you in your
work.
Patrick
Moore <pmoore@rogers.wave.ca>
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 18:35:06
(PST)
Love the "misperceptions &
facts," but it needs to be easier to find. Suggest you put a
direct link on your home page!
Kathy Morey <KMSquared@qnet.com>
Mammoth Lakes, CA USA - Monday, February 09, 1998 at 14:26:06
(PST)
Hi! The sight looks great, glad we stopped
by! Keep it up, Linda and Harry. We love ya - "wackos"
or no - and support you 100%!!! XOXO Aubrie & Wes
Aubrie & Wes Reeves <aubsnwes@earthlink.net>
USA - Sunday, February 08, 1998 at 16:20:41 (PST)
My highest regards to all at QLG. I am a
former student of Feather River College and resident of Quincy. I
have been watching the progress of your group while down in the
"urban wilderness" of S.F. Anyone who has ever lived or
visited Plumas Co.or the surrounding area will tell you it is a
unique and quite magical place. I am personally gratefull for all
your hard work and stewardship of this land. While not there in
person any longer, my fond memories of Quincy are forever
imprinted in my psyche. The knowledge that a place like Plumas
Co. exists has helped me on many occasions to get through a
tough, crowded, treeless urban day. Thankyou!.
Mike Kabler <Jawbone@pacbell.net>
San Francisco, Ca USA - Friday, February 06, 1998 at 08:57:36
(PST)
I'm a small town newspaper reporter in
extreme Northern California — Yreka — eager to learn
more about the QLG. Finnally the locals have a say. What many
national special interests groups forget is that locals tend to
care more about their forests and their future, because they live
in them. We don't want them to burn down, we don't want them to
die of insect infestations. I'm just glad that the QLG was able
to come to some sort of consensus. Unfortunately, the Roundtable
in Siskiyou County has not been as successful. Perhaps if all
parties involved were concerned with both the welfare of the
forest along with the welfare of the local community, more could
have been accomplished. Keep up the good work.
Lori Sellstrom <sisdaily@inreach.com>
Yreka, CA USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:53:15 (PST)
I'm a small town newspaper reporter in
Extreme Northern California — Yreka — eager to learn
more about the QLG. Finnally the locals have a say. What many
National special interests groups forget is that we tend to care
more about our forests and their future, because we live in them.
We don't want them to burn down, we don't want to die of insect
infestations. I'm just glad that the QLG was able to come to some
sort of consensus. Unfortunately, the Roundtable in Siskiyou
County has not been as successful. Perhaps in all parties
involved primary concern had been the welfare of the forest along
with the welfare of the local community, more could have been
accomplished. Keep up the good work.
Lori Sellstrom <sisdaily@inreach.com>
Yreka, CA USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:48:49 (PST)
Hi
George Goldman <goldman@are.berkeley.edu>
Berkeley, CA USA - Thursday, February 05, 1998 at 13:25:42 (PST)
Our page looks great and has a ton of solid
information. It is nice to see the diversity of people who are
checking in to it and find out the facts instead of listening to
the National greens bad mouth a good idea and hard working local
grassroots. I appreciates hearing the positive comments.
Rose Comstock <comstock@inreach.com>
Quincy, Ca USA - Monday, February 02, 1998 at 00:08:23 (PST)
I appreciate the existance the page as I've
been watching for factual information as to what has come of QLG.
Glad to see something come of this long term grass roots effort.
Seems like it shouldn't be so hard. I'm an advocate building a
fire resistanct forest which produces high quality sawlogs for
the future on the publice land base. Emphasising natural
regeneration,thereby minimizing costly inputs of planting,
herbicide use of questionalbe safety, and poisoning of critters.
Fifty percent wilderness set aside of federal land seems
reasonable to me for recreation and spirtual use. These set
asides should be continuous and contain the lesser timber
productive lands.
Barry Layton <bare@compuserve.com>
South Lake Tahoe, Ca USA - Saturday, January 31, 1998 at 14:00:09
(PST)
To everyone at qlg I like to send my support
and keep up the good work. I'am a former student of Feather River
College and have had the pleasher of learing about the qlg
through my forestry teacher Mr. Yost. It is so wounderfull
liveing in so californa and hearing feed back on what your doing.
I'v also injoyed your articals in the envirmental magazins for
example (Ameican Forester, Serria Clib and so on. I'm very
intrested in geting involved with the qlg, I know I'm 500mils
away, if theirs anything I can do please letme know I would
appreshat it I know several people down hear since I work for the
Forest Service in 1995 and still have good repor and I'am
presently volenterring and attending Citrus College in the forest
program, my fuatcher gol is move back to quincy and finish my
Forestry Digree as well as my Recreation degree. Thank for all
your hard work and dedication. If you have any publication please
if posible sendme a copy thank very much. Brian McKinzie 11107 S.
Portada Dr Whittier, CA 90604
Brian McKinzie <mckforest@hotmail.com>
whittier, ca USA - Friday, January 30, 1998 at 09:23:43 (PST)
These are the closing paragraphs from the
Spg 97 Forest Voice editorial, TRUE COLORS: Let us cut, the
industry says, but don't hold us responsible for our logging. We
want your trees, but you pay for the roads, you fight the fires,
you subsidize the sales with your taxes. We want to clearcut
steep slopes, but when they slide and bury public roads, you pay
for the cleanup and repair. We want to log your watersheds, but
when cities cannot use their water supplies because of siltation
from our logging, that's just tough. We foul your streams and
rivers, but if your city has to spend hundreds-of-millions of
dollars to build a water filtration system, that's your problem.
If your homes flood, if your insurance rates go up, if you have
the misfortune of being killed by a mudslide, hey, that's just
too bad. We want to improve the health of your forest by cutting
down perfectly healthy trees. We want to log in habitat
conservation areas torched by arsonists. We want to suspend the
laws because they're in our way. We want the last old growth. We
want the last redwoods. We want. We want. This is not an industry
worthy of, or open to, negotiation. This is not an industry that
respects the law or the natural world. This is not an industry
willing to bear the full cost of its production. This is an
industry that richly deserves to be kicked off public lands. No
more deals. No more studies. No more sacrifice zones. No more
denials. No more excuses. No more riders. No more logging of
public lands. Zero-Cut!
Tim
Hermach <zerocut1@forestcouncil.org>
Eugene, OR USA - Thursday, January 22, 1998 at 13:02:01 (PST)
All OK
Richard Metz <Margaret@intercite.com>
Placerville, CA USA - Wednesday, January 21, 1998 at 22:22:06
(PST)
A lot of glowing comments on Quincy. I
wonder if you'll post a negative comment. Our group, Voice of the
Environment, thinks that the so-call consensus process is a sham
and the legislation that resulted is: bad for the taxpayer, bad
for the forests, bad for the inhabitants of the forests, likely
to endanger firefighters, based on fraudulent science and very
good for Sierra Pacific Industries.
Caleb Kleppner <voteaction@hotmail.com>
Bolinas, CA USA - Monday, January 19, 1998 at 16:36:44 (PST)
Just to let you know I finally made it to
your guestbook. Keep up the good work. See you soon, Pat.
Pat Terhune
USA - Sunday, January 18, 1998 at 15:31:47 (PST)
Your site is an incredible resources -
thanks!
Ann Moote <moote@ag.arizona.edu>
Tucson, AZYOAZ USA - Monday, January 12, 1998 at 09:16:10 (PST)
Hi, folks... I'm the Ford Foundation staff
person who will be replacing Fran Korten, as of April 1998. I'm
very interested in the good work that QLG has done. Mike
Mike Conroy <m.conroy@fordfound.org>
New York, NY USA - Thursday, January 08, 1998 at 09:29:28 (PST)
I'm the brother of the self-proclaimed
"environmental wacko" Linda Blum ;-) Keep up the good
work! Hi, Harry!
David Blum <dblum@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Hilliard, OH USA - Thursday, January 08, 1998 at 05:25:59 (PST)
Brian Day <beday@hevanet.com>
Beaverton, OR USA - Monday, January 05, 1998 at 21:52:11 (PST)
I think your efforts at providing for the
local environment without sacraficing the local workforce are at
the forefront of what many of us can only hope is a trend. I was
distressed to hear, however, that Senator Leahy of Vermont has
scuttled the Senate version of your plan. Is this true? If so,
can you share the details. The way many of us in the Northeast
view your resource problems is that, what happens to you will
happen to us next. Keep up the good work in any event... Mike
Waddell, Selectman Gorham, NH
Mike Waddell <dawad@ncia.net>
Gorham, NH USA - Monday, January 05, 1998 at 15:16:49 (PST)
HI Daddy!! :) Keep up the good work, luv
Ulla p.s. Hi Linda!
Ulla
Reeves <ureeves@vt.edu>
Blacksburg, VA USA - Monday, January 05, 1998 at 12:44:10 (PST)
Your success to date is unbelievable! Don't
let Sen. Boxer's withdrawal slow the momentum. When will the
national environmental groups realize that they've completely
lost touch with their grassroots constituency and now are the
biggest impediment to innovative natural resource management
ideas? Now that they've focused all of their power and lobbying
in Washington D.C., to the detriment of their grassroots origins,
they respond bitterly to successful grassroots campaigns because
(I believe) they have removed themselves from providing
meaningful input into local or regional decision making process.
The memo by Sierra Club Chairman Michael McClousky regarding his
view of collaborative planning efforts, published by High Country
News (May 13, 1996), reveals this organization's grassroots
failings and provides insights into their inability to influence
local collaborative planning efforts. It was this same attitude
from some national environmental groups that helped undermine the
validity of Secretary Babbitt's Colorado Roundtable discussions,
when he met with various stake holders (including national
environmental group respresentatives) to attempt to create a
template for his national Rangeland Reform program. As we know,
range reform was successfully dismembered, partially as a result
of some national environmental group's distaste of the
Secretary's proposal for locally based, collaborative natural
resource planning teams. Unfortunately, we will continue to see
the type of national versus local environmental group
in-fighting, which fragments an otherwise powerful impetus for
land management reform, until the national groups broaden their
focus and make true attempts to reconnect with their grassroots
constituents. Until that happens, we should expect to continue to
see resistence to any type of grassroots, innovative land
management reforms.
Randall Rasmussen <rrasmussen@ensr.com>
Fort Collins, CO USA - Friday, January 02, 1998 at 10:47:57 (PST)